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		<title>By: karachikhatmal (11/09): wow! it reads like he ... &#8212; BackType</title>
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		<title>By: Dastagir</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dastagir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Feb 2010 10:25:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Qurratulain Haider wrote this verse probably in Gardish-e-Rang-e-Chaman : At this moment i do not recollect whose verse it is :

Jee lahu rota hai mera to achamba kya hai ?
Dukh to kar deta hai..patthar ka kaleja paani !!

Why Maulana Azad.,  even Rafi Ahmed Kidwai had written that &quot;partition&quot; had become an inevitability.  The British wanted it  (Churchill : &quot;We want to retain a part of the country to monitor the Soviet Union)... the Hindus wanted it., right from 1920 (Lal-Bal-Pal).  Gandhi ji was not so much interested in India becoming free from British Rule.  His greatest achievement., his life-time work was to get India rid of its &quot;Muslim Influence&quot; (in terms of symbology and ideology).  He wanted to purify India of Islamic symbols and ideology. That was his life-time work., which he pursued with great dedication ad ultimately won. His Non-Violent Satyagrahas were not aimed at weakening the British Rule.  Rather they were a &quot;warning&quot; to Muslims to behave lest.................    He kept  heating the movement., then switched the burner off... 7 times...  to keep the anger boiling... this frustration was given vent with full force in 1947... when Gandhi ji forgot the Punjab border (soaked in blood) and rushed to Naokhali instead.   Punjab was left to God .. and everyone knws the administrative arrangements that Mountbatten had put in place in Punjab.  It was purely &quot;defenceless&quot; and ready for genocide.   Why did Gandhi ji pre-pone the partition date from Aug 1948 to 1947 ?  Was it because Jinnah was making moves towards the Harijans (Dravidians.. meeting with Annadurai in Chennai ?). Did Gandhi ji sense that Harijans (meaning &quot;bastards&quot; as used by Gujarati Poet Narsi Mehta.. who wrote &quot;Vaishnava Janato&quot;... Gandhiji&#039;s favourite Bhajan... 700 yrs back... and Ambedkar had to insist on using the word &quot;Dalit&quot;., because he knew the meaning and the derogatory context and meaning with which Narsi had used the term, and to which Gandhi ji gave currency !).    Gandhi ji and Sardar Patel (and the financiers from Calcutta and Bombay) wanted Muslim-influence out of India. They were willing to pay the price to get rid of Muslim-influence.  Partition.

Maulana Azad&#039;s advice was not heeded. He was the Congress President in 1946.  After Gandhi ji achieved his objective., (i.e. Partition of India., and cleansing India of Muslim symbols),  there has not been a single Congress Party president to-date.

Gandhi ji even abandoned Khan Abdul Gaffar Khan and Dr. Khan Sahib (NWFP).  A province / state where Congress had won Assembly Elections.   He simply lumped it with Muslim league.. to GET the main piece of the pie.  INDIA..  Free from Muslim symbols and influence.

Unfortunately, Muslims (and Jinnah) fell into the trap laid by Hindu Maha Sabha (thru their provocations);  Arya Samaj (thru Shuddi-Sangathan);  RSS,  Savarkar, and other criminal Hindu armies / senas.   Maulana Azad realIsed and sensed this TRAP that was laid for them (aided and abetted by the British)., but muslims were not politically evolved., to see the trap.  SO they fell into the trap and are paying the price... to-date.   Loss upon loss upon loss...  with no light in sight.

Iqbal never advocated the Partition of india.  What he said in 1928 at Allahbad was : Merger of 4 / 5 states.. into one group.. to be WITHIN India... or without it.  WITHIN was the first option Iqbal presented.  Of course the latter was a bargaining counter.   The British removed from the scene : Subhas Chandra Bose., and Bahadur Yar Jung.  These 2 leaders would not have allowed partition.  Once these 2 were removed., the Partition Express ran in full steam with  Gandhi and Vallabhbhai Patel getting what they wanted.  An India free of Muslim influence.  They gladly paid the price for this goal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Qurratulain Haider wrote this verse probably in Gardish-e-Rang-e-Chaman : At this moment i do not recollect whose verse it is :</p>
<p>Jee lahu rota hai mera to achamba kya hai ?<br />
Dukh to kar deta hai..patthar ka kaleja paani !!</p>
<p>Why Maulana Azad.,  even Rafi Ahmed Kidwai had written that &#8220;partition&#8221; had become an inevitability.  The British wanted it  (Churchill : &#8220;We want to retain a part of the country to monitor the Soviet Union)&#8230; the Hindus wanted it., right from 1920 (Lal-Bal-Pal).  Gandhi ji was not so much interested in India becoming free from British Rule.  His greatest achievement., his life-time work was to get India rid of its &#8220;Muslim Influence&#8221; (in terms of symbology and ideology).  He wanted to purify India of Islamic symbols and ideology. That was his life-time work., which he pursued with great dedication ad ultimately won. His Non-Violent Satyagrahas were not aimed at weakening the British Rule.  Rather they were a &#8220;warning&#8221; to Muslims to behave lest&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..    He kept  heating the movement., then switched the burner off&#8230; 7 times&#8230;  to keep the anger boiling&#8230; this frustration was given vent with full force in 1947&#8230; when Gandhi ji forgot the Punjab border (soaked in blood) and rushed to Naokhali instead.   Punjab was left to God .. and everyone knws the administrative arrangements that Mountbatten had put in place in Punjab.  It was purely &#8220;defenceless&#8221; and ready for genocide.   Why did Gandhi ji pre-pone the partition date from Aug 1948 to 1947 ?  Was it because Jinnah was making moves towards the Harijans (Dravidians.. meeting with Annadurai in Chennai ?). Did Gandhi ji sense that Harijans (meaning &#8220;bastards&#8221; as used by Gujarati Poet Narsi Mehta.. who wrote &#8220;Vaishnava Janato&#8221;&#8230; Gandhiji&#8217;s favourite Bhajan&#8230; 700 yrs back&#8230; and Ambedkar had to insist on using the word &#8220;Dalit&#8221;., because he knew the meaning and the derogatory context and meaning with which Narsi had used the term, and to which Gandhi ji gave currency !).    Gandhi ji and Sardar Patel (and the financiers from Calcutta and Bombay) wanted Muslim-influence out of India. They were willing to pay the price to get rid of Muslim-influence.  Partition.</p>
<p>Maulana Azad&#8217;s advice was not heeded. He was the Congress President in 1946.  After Gandhi ji achieved his objective., (i.e. Partition of India., and cleansing India of Muslim symbols),  there has not been a single Congress Party president to-date.</p>
<p>Gandhi ji even abandoned Khan Abdul Gaffar Khan and Dr. Khan Sahib (NWFP).  A province / state where Congress had won Assembly Elections.   He simply lumped it with Muslim league.. to GET the main piece of the pie.  INDIA..  Free from Muslim symbols and influence.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, Muslims (and Jinnah) fell into the trap laid by Hindu Maha Sabha (thru their provocations);  Arya Samaj (thru Shuddi-Sangathan);  RSS,  Savarkar, and other criminal Hindu armies / senas.   Maulana Azad realIsed and sensed this TRAP that was laid for them (aided and abetted by the British)., but muslims were not politically evolved., to see the trap.  SO they fell into the trap and are paying the price&#8230; to-date.   Loss upon loss upon loss&#8230;  with no light in sight.</p>
<p>Iqbal never advocated the Partition of india.  What he said in 1928 at Allahbad was : Merger of 4 / 5 states.. into one group.. to be WITHIN India&#8230; or without it.  WITHIN was the first option Iqbal presented.  Of course the latter was a bargaining counter.   The British removed from the scene : Subhas Chandra Bose., and Bahadur Yar Jung.  These 2 leaders would not have allowed partition.  Once these 2 were removed., the Partition Express ran in full steam with  Gandhi and Vallabhbhai Patel getting what they wanted.  An India free of Muslim influence.  They gladly paid the price for this goal.</p>
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		<title>By: Looking beyond the obvious: Interesting Reading: A 1946 interview of Maulana Abul Kalam Azad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Looking beyond the obvious: Interesting Reading: A 1946 interview of Maulana Abul Kalam Azad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 08:49:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Politics, Society and Cricket: Maulana Azad&#8217;s interview given to Shorish Kashmiri, 1946 &#124; Jahane Rumi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Politics, Society and Cricket: Maulana Azad&#8217;s interview given to Shorish Kashmiri, 1946 &#124; Jahane Rumi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 07:30:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;!--%kramer-ref-pre%--&gt;[...] Maulana Azad&#8217;s interview given to Shorish Kashmiri, 1946 &#124; Jahane Rumi    What an amazingly prescient article from Maulana Azad, a muslim leader we hear precious little about in Pakistan.      Posted by Ahmer Azhar Karimuddin   at 4:40 PM [...]&lt;!--%kramer-ref-post%--&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: Mehmud Ahmed</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mehmud Ahmed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Dec 2009 00:38:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whether Maulana Azad was a Nostradamus or not is not the question. The important points that this socalled interview dug out by Arif Khan are:

1.  What was the age of Shorish Kashmiri at that time? Was he old enough to gain the confidence
    of Maulana Azad?

2.  Did Chattan exist in 1946 - a period when Pakistan was just a demand and the formation of
    an Indian confederation with three federting units was on the cards.

3.  In 1946 Shorish was a paid worker of the Majlis Ahrar and accompanied Attaullah Shah Bokhari   and Sheikh Hissamuddin on campaigns against the All India Muslim Leagues.  I met him when came to my
    home-town of Dera Ismail Khan to work in support of Syed Makhdoom Shah Banori who was
    a candidate of the Congress on one of the two seats Frontier Province had in the Central
    Legislature.

 I was a regular paid-reader of Chattan when it started publication from the Vera Hotel, McLeod Road, Lahore soon after partition. I do not want to go into details as how Shorish managed to possess an evacuee property as it is irrelevent to what Arif Khan has claimed but the files
of the weekly magazine are still available in Lahore Public Library and can be scanned to
ascertain the truth.  Mehmud Ahmed (Brampton-Ontario- Canada)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whether Maulana Azad was a Nostradamus or not is not the question. The important points that this socalled interview dug out by Arif Khan are:</p>
<p>1.  What was the age of Shorish Kashmiri at that time? Was he old enough to gain the confidence<br />
    of Maulana Azad?</p>
<p>2.  Did Chattan exist in 1946 &#8211; a period when Pakistan was just a demand and the formation of<br />
    an Indian confederation with three federting units was on the cards.</p>
<p>3.  In 1946 Shorish was a paid worker of the Majlis Ahrar and accompanied Attaullah Shah Bokhari   and Sheikh Hissamuddin on campaigns against the All India Muslim Leagues.  I met him when came to my<br />
    home-town of Dera Ismail Khan to work in support of Syed Makhdoom Shah Banori who was<br />
    a candidate of the Congress on one of the two seats Frontier Province had in the Central<br />
    Legislature.</p>
<p> I was a regular paid-reader of Chattan when it started publication from the Vera Hotel, McLeod Road, Lahore soon after partition. I do not want to go into details as how Shorish managed to possess an evacuee property as it is irrelevent to what Arif Khan has claimed but the files<br />
of the weekly magazine are still available in Lahore Public Library and can be scanned to<br />
ascertain the truth.  Mehmud Ahmed (Brampton-Ontario- Canada)</p>
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		<title>By: Sarkish</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sarkish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 22:58:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>An excellent find. There is plenty to disagree in Maulana Azad&#039;s opinions and theories, however one cannot underestimate the strength of his intellect. I do wish that Shorish should have asked the Maulana if he saw any positives to come out from the partition. After all, there is light on the other side of even the darkest tunnel.  His predictions about life after partition are right on, but it speaks more to our mistakes and how we mis-handled our freedom. We could&#039;ve turned out differently if we had made the right choices after the partition. We have a very short window of opportunity to correct the course.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An excellent find. There is plenty to disagree in Maulana Azad&#8217;s opinions and theories, however one cannot underestimate the strength of his intellect. I do wish that Shorish should have asked the Maulana if he saw any positives to come out from the partition. After all, there is light on the other side of even the darkest tunnel.  His predictions about life after partition are right on, but it speaks more to our mistakes and how we mis-handled our freedom. We could&#8217;ve turned out differently if we had made the right choices after the partition. We have a very short window of opportunity to correct the course.</p>
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		<title>By: YLH</title>
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		<dc:creator>YLH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 13:56:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agreed... 

And until someone produced a verifiable copy of the Chattan from April 1946 with these predictions or something from Azad&#039;s works and papers that refer to these predictions or refer to these predictions in that interview...  we can conclude by deduction that this is nothing but a forgery, given the obvious gaping holes in Shorish&#039;s forgery. 

Shorish ladies and gentlemen was a crook.  We must call a spade a spade.   Shorish was a bad crook ... who made such obvious blunders in this interview that any discerning student of history could easily raise several objections ...   I found the Jamal reference the most hilarious given that Azad was a religious scholar of unquestionable repute.    I also found his comment on &quot;other Muslim countries&quot; highly dubious... all of which I have explained in the link I have given above.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed&#8230; </p>
<p>And until someone produced a verifiable copy of the Chattan from April 1946 with these predictions or something from Azad&#8217;s works and papers that refer to these predictions or refer to these predictions in that interview&#8230;  we can conclude by deduction that this is nothing but a forgery, given the obvious gaping holes in Shorish&#8217;s forgery. </p>
<p>Shorish ladies and gentlemen was a crook.  We must call a spade a spade.   Shorish was a bad crook &#8230; who made such obvious blunders in this interview that any discerning student of history could easily raise several objections &#8230;   I found the Jamal reference the most hilarious given that Azad was a religious scholar of unquestionable repute.    I also found his comment on &#8220;other Muslim countries&#8221; highly dubious&#8230; all of which I have explained in the link I have given above.</p>
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		<title>By: Anjum Altaf</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anjum Altaf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 03:21:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I recall that on the cover of Chatan there always used to be a couplet that puzzled me:

agarche but hain jamaa&#039;t kii aasteenoN maiN
mujhe hai hukm-e-azaan la ilaha illallah

Do I remember right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I recall that on the cover of Chatan there always used to be a couplet that puzzled me:</p>
<p>agarche but hain jamaa&#8217;t kii aasteenoN maiN<br />
mujhe hai hukm-e-azaan la ilaha illallah</p>
<p>Do I remember right?</p>
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		<title>By: Raza</title>
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		<dc:creator>Raza</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 21:27:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am glad that this post attracted such high interest. I think Azad&#039;s speech is genuine.
Dr Altaf: thanks for visiting.
YLH - thanks for the link and investigating into this matter. We must find the original Chattan for historical accuracy..
cheers, R</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am glad that this post attracted such high interest. I think Azad&#8217;s speech is genuine.<br />
Dr Altaf: thanks for visiting.<br />
YLH &#8211; thanks for the link and investigating into this matter. We must find the original Chattan for historical accuracy..<br />
cheers, R</p>
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		<title>By: YLH</title>
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		<dc:creator>YLH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Dec 2009 16:57:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dr. Altaf,

If you mean the speech, it is genuine.

Not so the interview.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dr. Altaf,</p>
<p>If you mean the speech, it is genuine.</p>
<p>Not so the interview.</p>
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