Comments on: The native returns http://razarumi.com/2008/11/21/the-native-returns/ Just another WordPress site Mon, 06 Feb 2012 08:58:48 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Rabia http://razarumi.com/2008/11/21/the-native-returns/#comment-8728 Rabia Thu, 11 Dec 2008 06:58:05 +0000 http://www.razarumi.com/?p=1227#comment-8728 what a great post! I hope that one day I can return home (to Karachi) too :) what a great post! I hope that one day I can return home (to Karachi) too :)

]]> By: Le Mystique http://razarumi.com/2008/11/21/the-native-returns/#comment-8618 Le Mystique Thu, 04 Dec 2008 21:05:16 +0000 http://www.razarumi.com/?p=1227#comment-8618 They attack us everywhere from Khyber to Karachi and Mumbai to London... Perhaps we all need to do what Raza did. Instead of running away, we need to turn back and stay where the terrorists want to scare us away from. They attack us everywhere from Khyber to Karachi and Mumbai to London…
Perhaps we all need to do what Raza did.
Instead of running away, we need to turn back and stay where the terrorists want to scare us away from.

]]> By: milieu http://razarumi.com/2008/11/21/the-native-returns/#comment-8616 milieu Thu, 04 Dec 2008 15:52:01 +0000 http://www.razarumi.com/?p=1227#comment-8616 Sorry to be bombarding your site with comments. From this news item http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/7763446.stm "TS Anklesaria, who attended the gathering from a distant suburb with his wife, said that "perhaps the time has come to adopt what Jinnah said and not what Mahatma Gandhi said". "Jinnah said that if someone slaps you once, you must slap him harder. That is what we need now." " I was stuck with the thought that these militants actually attacked the city which the founding father of Pakistan loved and wanted to live in and perhaps die in. Sorry to be bombarding your site with comments.
From this news item

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/7763446.stm

“TS Anklesaria, who attended the gathering from a distant suburb with his wife, said that “perhaps the time has come to adopt what Jinnah said and not what Mahatma Gandhi said”.

“Jinnah said that if someone slaps you once, you must slap him harder. That is what we need now.” ”

I was stuck with the thought that these militants actually attacked the city which the founding father of Pakistan loved and wanted to live in and perhaps die in.

]]> By: milieu http://razarumi.com/2008/11/21/the-native-returns/#comment-8612 milieu Thu, 04 Dec 2008 12:17:35 +0000 http://www.razarumi.com/?p=1227#comment-8612 Tom Friedman's post says what many people around the world feel right now. http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/12/03/opinion/edfriedman.php Tom Friedman’s post says what many people around the world feel right now.
http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/12/03/opinion/edfriedman.php

]]> By: Milieu http://razarumi.com/2008/11/21/the-native-returns/#comment-8522 Milieu Fri, 28 Nov 2008 14:37:39 +0000 http://www.razarumi.com/?p=1227#comment-8522 <i>The imagined failure of the Pakistan project is nothing but a fantasy.</i> In these times, you have to imagine the fantastic and absurd to survive. India has gone through a difficult phase when lots of people thought it will not survive. It managed to though there is no guarantee of tomorrow. Even if these were a fantasy, the small possibility of them coming true is horrendous. So I would say that these doomsday predictors are actually doing a good job. Cos unless you survive you have not survived. But I salute your return back to the country. Actions speak louder than words. The imagined failure of the Pakistan project is nothing but a fantasy.
In these times, you have to imagine the fantastic and absurd to survive. India has gone through a difficult phase when lots of people thought it will not survive. It managed to though there is no guarantee of tomorrow.
Even if these were a fantasy, the small possibility of them coming true is horrendous. So I would say that these doomsday predictors are actually doing a good job. Cos unless you survive you have not survived.
But I salute your return back to the country. Actions speak louder than words.

]]> By: Suepblese http://razarumi.com/2008/11/21/the-native-returns/#comment-8515 Suepblese Fri, 28 Nov 2008 06:59:10 +0000 http://www.razarumi.com/?p=1227#comment-8515 hey! I made with photoshop anime myspace banners. take a look at them: http://tinyurl.com/5wmgpn Thanks for your site ;-) xxoxo hey!
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]]> By: cubano http://razarumi.com/2008/11/21/the-native-returns/#comment-8488 cubano Wed, 26 Nov 2008 15:38:26 +0000 http://www.razarumi.com/?p=1227#comment-8488 I almost felt guilty about living abroad after reading this...but there are some of us who are more adapted to other lands than the one they were born in. I almost felt guilty about living abroad after reading this…but there are some of us who are more adapted to other lands than the one they were born in.

]]> By: IMeMy http://razarumi.com/2008/11/21/the-native-returns/#comment-8425 IMeMy Mon, 24 Nov 2008 21:03:06 +0000 http://www.razarumi.com/?p=1227#comment-8425 Beautifully penned Raza! Not meaning to be negative here or for that matter taking away from a momentous event, but homecomings like these often have a honeymoon period that slowly but surely draws to a close to let reality step in... Beautifully penned Raza!

Not meaning to be negative here or for that matter taking away from a momentous event, but homecomings like these often have a honeymoon period that slowly but surely draws to a close to let reality step in…

]]> By: Saadia http://razarumi.com/2008/11/21/the-native-returns/#comment-8418 Saadia Mon, 24 Nov 2008 18:46:36 +0000 http://www.razarumi.com/?p=1227#comment-8418 It won't be easy. But of course, you're welcome! :-) It won’t be easy. But of course, you’re welcome! :-)

]]> By: Darwaish http://razarumi.com/2008/11/21/the-native-returns/#comment-8414 Darwaish Mon, 24 Nov 2008 13:39:27 +0000 http://www.razarumi.com/?p=1227#comment-8414 a truly inspirational post indeed for many who think Pakistan is not worth living anymore! a truly inspirational post indeed for many who think Pakistan is not worth living anymore!

]]> By: Dastagir http://razarumi.com/2008/11/21/the-native-returns/#comment-8407 Dastagir Mon, 24 Nov 2008 08:01:58 +0000 http://www.razarumi.com/?p=1227#comment-8407 I was told by someone that there are beautiful homes in Pakistan. Well that is good news. Congratulations and God bless. However, home-owners must now graduate to become institution-builders. Pakistani elite has disappointed hugely. Pakistan needs QUALITY HIGH SCHOOLS... more than it needs oxygen. Establishing and running Quality High School would require missionary spirit and silent workers... who work silently for a lifetime and die unknown. Gimmicks wont work. Solid grass-roots work is needed. If the elite of Pakistan do not respond., then the Titanic sinks... and when the Titanic sinks... it would be all-encompassing. This plastic-superficial sense of being wealthy will melt like a candle. This mall-economy culture is extremely fragile. A generationof new / young / rich Pakistanis are needed to change the landscape of Pakistan. Old gimmicks and superficialism is not enough ! Solid work is needed... Silent... Solid Work.. without publicity... without noise... I was told by someone that there are beautiful homes in Pakistan. Well that is good news. Congratulations and God bless. However, home-owners must now graduate to become institution-builders. Pakistani elite has disappointed hugely. Pakistan needs QUALITY HIGH SCHOOLS… more than it needs oxygen. Establishing and running Quality High School would require missionary spirit and silent workers… who work silently for a lifetime and die unknown.

Gimmicks wont work. Solid grass-roots work is needed. If the elite of Pakistan do not respond., then the Titanic sinks… and when the Titanic sinks… it would be all-encompassing. This plastic-superficial sense of being wealthy will melt like a candle. This mall-economy culture is extremely fragile. A generationof new / young / rich Pakistanis are needed to change the landscape of Pakistan. Old gimmicks and superficialism is not enough ! Solid work is needed… Silent… Solid Work.. without publicity… without noise…

]]> By: jz http://razarumi.com/2008/11/21/the-native-returns/#comment-8404 jz Mon, 24 Nov 2008 06:00:44 +0000 http://www.razarumi.com/?p=1227#comment-8404 In the final analysis, there is no place like home. Problems notwithstanding, comfort is literally synonymous with home. We do alot of pakistan bashing and crib about corruption, failed governance, loadsheddings, crappy attitudes, bad traffic, dug up roads etc but like you return home one day...so there has to be something that pulls. And we need to build up on this 'something' to do our own little bit for this country that has given us all that we claim, flaunt and profess. So i am glad that you decided to return.... your conviction actually energizes me! In the final analysis, there is no place like home. Problems notwithstanding, comfort is literally synonymous with home. We do alot of pakistan bashing and crib about corruption, failed governance, loadsheddings, crappy attitudes, bad traffic, dug up roads etc but like you return home one day…so there has to be something that pulls. And we need to build up on this ‘something’ to do our own little bit for this country that has given us all that we claim, flaunt and profess. So i am glad that you decided to return…. your conviction actually energizes me!

]]> By: jc http://razarumi.com/2008/11/21/the-native-returns/#comment-8389 jc Sun, 23 Nov 2008 14:11:01 +0000 http://www.razarumi.com/?p=1227#comment-8389 home at last, sir :) home at last, sir :)

]]> By: Babar Bhatti http://razarumi.com/2008/11/21/the-native-returns/#comment-8376 Babar Bhatti Sun, 23 Nov 2008 03:48:32 +0000 http://www.razarumi.com/?p=1227#comment-8376 Dear Raza, Well said. Count me as one of those who have been living away from Lahore but never feeling at ease elsewhere. The reactions you describe are so very typical. I can understand and empathize, especially having met you during this transition of yours. I really enjoy spending time with interesting people in Lahore and I find their resilience commendable. It was great to have that cup of tea with you .... I hope your travels bring you to Dallas some day! Babar Dear Raza,

Well said. Count me as one of those who have been living away from Lahore but never feeling at ease elsewhere. The reactions you describe are so very typical. I can understand and empathize, especially having met you during this transition of yours. I really enjoy spending time with interesting people in Lahore and I find their resilience commendable.

It was great to have that cup of tea with you …. I hope your travels bring you to Dallas some day!

Babar

]]> By: Muhammad Usman http://razarumi.com/2008/11/21/the-native-returns/#comment-8371 Muhammad Usman Sat, 22 Nov 2008 21:39:42 +0000 http://www.razarumi.com/?p=1227#comment-8371 I don’t think Lahori has decided on impulse or unaffected by the prophets of doom to come back and live in Lahore. He has decided out of frustration and wants to give a try. welcome on board. All of us lived adolescent lives of enthusiasm when we faced despair and hopelessness. Most of us felt oppression of parents and decided to run away against the world of older generation. After twenty years you must have realized that Provincialism is present wherever you have gone. you must have found discrimination, lack of discipline and failure to recognize talent and competencies. It was fun for locals to choose to arbitrary exercises of power, use of local languages and cultural to defy your ambition and spirit.. If you can’t change your inward looking ethos, the individualism and denial to your past, you have to come back after drifting for many years. But have you thought for a second of your younger generation and their choice? You must examine the problems of so doing and its consequence? During our visit to Iran in 70s, we were surprised to find out two sensitive departments weeding media news into two categories, information and disinformation. They were classifying any news harmful to the country’s interest as disinformation. They used to treat all media like the enemy and didn’t believe them unless it was in their national interest. As for unplugging your brain from the corporate-media propaganda machine, forget mainstream television and radio news—it's more misinformation than news. The good news is that investigative reporting does still exist and truly informative news programs can be found—on the internet. Welcome to Lahore! I don’t think Lahori has decided on impulse or unaffected by the prophets of doom to come back and live in Lahore. He has decided out of frustration and wants to give a try. welcome on board.
All of us lived adolescent lives of enthusiasm when we faced despair and hopelessness. Most of us felt oppression of parents and decided to run away against the world of older generation.
After twenty years you must have realized that Provincialism is present wherever you have gone. you must have found discrimination, lack of discipline and failure to recognize talent and competencies. It was fun for locals to choose to arbitrary exercises of power, use of local languages and cultural to defy your ambition and spirit..
If you can’t change your inward looking ethos, the individualism and denial to your past, you have to come back after drifting for many years. But have you thought for a second of your younger generation and their choice? You must examine the problems of so doing and its consequence?
During our visit to Iran in 70s, we were surprised to find out two sensitive departments weeding media news into two categories, information and disinformation. They were classifying any news harmful to the country’s interest as disinformation. They used to treat all media like the enemy and didn’t believe them unless it was in their national interest.
As for unplugging your brain from the corporate-media propaganda machine, forget mainstream television and radio news—it’s more misinformation than news. The good news is that investigative reporting does still exist and truly informative news programs can be found—on the internet.
Welcome to Lahore!

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