Comments on: Khusrau, Meera, Kabir: The Fluid Self http://www.razarumi.com/2008/04/13/khusrau-meera-kabir-the-fluid-self/ In search of the unsearchable: O, my soul! where would you find your house? Sun, 12 Oct 2008 02:17:21 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: Secularism « Desi Contrarian’s Weblog http://www.razarumi.com/2008/04/13/khusrau-meera-kabir-the-fluid-self/#comment-6078 Secularism « Desi Contrarian’s Weblog Wed, 13 Aug 2008 12:14:55 +0000 http://www.razarumi.com/2008/04/13/khusrau-meera-kabir-the-fluid-self/#comment-6078 [...] within a particular religion or sect. There was room for parallel ideas of devotion, conjugal love and surrender to grow in vaishanvism, sikhism and sufism. But all this background did not matter. [...] [...] within a particular religion or sect. There was room for parallel ideas of devotion, conjugal love and surrender to grow in vaishanvism, sikhism and sufism. But all this background did not matter. [...]

]]> By: Dastagir http://www.razarumi.com/2008/04/13/khusrau-meera-kabir-the-fluid-self/#comment-4489 Dastagir Mon, 14 Apr 2008 06:41:44 +0000 http://www.razarumi.com/2008/04/13/khusrau-meera-kabir-the-fluid-self/#comment-4489 It takes a thousand years of nurturing for a culture to form... In comparision the harvest of hatred grow very fast. In my view, Pundit Jawaharlal Nehru and Sarojini Naidu represent the FINEST in Hinduism... while Amir Khusrau and Maulana Abulkalam Azad represent the FINEST in Islamic Tradition. This reality has to be faced. Whenever tried to push under the carpet it sprang with devastating force. India's 2 major communities and cultures., the Ganga-Jamuni have great beauty. Both complement each other., and add to India's beauty. Hinduism is closest to Islam., as there is the concept of MARYADA. Islam in its essence is nothing but HUSN-E-AQLAAQ. (Good behavior towards fellow-human beings and even creatures.. the first lesson in environmental studies was given by Islam). I must confess, that there is a certain strictness associated with Islam. That is because IT was needed to plant the seed of TAWHID or UNITY of GOD strong enough. Imam Ghazali gave the philosophical exposition to Islamic thought .. various ideas and views came forth with time. Sufism is one of it. Prophet Mohammed (Peace be upon him) was also "Teacher of Humanity" [Moallim al Insaniyya] (and not just teacher of muslims...) ! Vidya Rao has written wonderfully and with her heart on the delicate issue, which is at the core of India's Soul. Indic civilisation is secular in essence., and is under threat of evil forces who indulge in hate-speech, divide society, incite mob violence and rise to political power ! If Indic Civilisation is secular, and if India is such a great nation of great idealism. how do we explain the barbaric events, the news item we see / read. Therein lies the reality. Hate-Factories are flourishing inside India. Pundit Jawaharlal Nehru had identified these Hate-Factories. These Hindu-Taliban and RSS and VHP and the narrow-minded people (from other religions / persuasions) will destroy Indian Culture. Religion teaches love. No religion (islam or hinduism) encourages violence... What is happening today is that "religion" is used as a banner, to incite mob violence... They are doing this to feed their egos. This has nothing to do with religion, per se. Unfortunately hatred has been drilled continuously for the past 80 years... and that is the reason, why the average indian is so full of hatred and narrow-minded... inspite of being the inheritor of a great civilisational culture... such great beauty of languages, poetry, architecture, painting, divine music... Love is the Mantra... but power-brokers pour cyanide continuously (on a daily basis) on the feeble plant of love. Mohammed is "Mohabbat", and all else is commentary. Hindu Philosophy, Vedas, Upanishads, Gita... is full of great wisdom. Sri Krishna shows the full-ness of the personality of man... and the Rasa-Leela is "Maya" or worldy-affairs. It pains the heart terribly to see such great culture.. such great heritage.. going to dogs. Such fine music... such fine artistes... such fine poets.. such fine sufis.. such fine writers... such fine souls... and their contribution over centuries... all gets washed away.... by a hand-ful of evil people ... the merchants of hatred ! India can be a land of peace and freedom for 1 billion people, if the freedom of 1 thousand individuals is curtailed. They must be under house-arrest. The freedom of 1 thousand people is endengering the freedom of 1 billion people. They are using freedom wrongly... Freedom for one-self does not imply HATRED for another. There is a fine line... I have not heard Ms. Vidya Rao's music... i hope some day i can. She has written wonderfully... there are subtle hints in her essay... the mixture of Persian and Braj... and the simile of "filgree and earthen pot" that she has used is wonderful and written from the heart. The essay is a tribute to India's multi-ethnic richness... Diversity is God's way... we have to understand that. The Government of India must introduce something about "Humanism" and "Respect for Diversity" in the school sylabbus ! Some states may NOT accept that... That is the main question... Are these states part of India... or have they seceded... mentally / ideologically ? India's constitution was drafted with great care and deligence. The foundation of india's constitution, its diversity, its SOUL is under threat. India has to be saved from "hatred" if it is to survive. Iqbal had written with pride... " Yunaan-o-Misr-o-Roo`maa.... Sab Mitt gaye jahaan se ! Ab tak magar hai ... Baaqi ! Naam-o-nash`aan Hamara..." Saare Jahan Se Ach`cha... Hind`ostan Hamara... Hamara... If Hind`ostan is poor economically, that is perfectly fine.... but let us not get impoversihed spiritually... and philosophically. Spirituality and Philosophy are the Core of the Indian Mind. That should not be destroyed by Trishuls, Swords, Acid Bombs, Guns and Lathis. God Bless Vidya Rao., for the fine tribute she paid to the SOUL of Mother India. It takes a thousand years of nurturing for a culture to form… In comparision the harvest of hatred grow very fast. In my view, Pundit Jawaharlal Nehru and Sarojini Naidu represent the FINEST in Hinduism… while Amir Khusrau and Maulana Abulkalam Azad represent the FINEST in Islamic Tradition. This reality has to be faced. Whenever tried to push under the carpet it sprang with devastating force. India’s 2 major communities and cultures., the Ganga-Jamuni have great beauty. Both complement each other., and add to India’s beauty. Hinduism is closest to Islam., as there is the concept of MARYADA. Islam in its essence is nothing but HUSN-E-AQLAAQ. (Good behavior towards fellow-human beings and even creatures.. the first lesson in environmental studies was given by Islam). I must confess, that there is a certain strictness associated with Islam. That is because IT was needed to plant the seed of TAWHID or UNITY of GOD strong enough. Imam Ghazali gave the philosophical exposition to Islamic thought .. various ideas and views came forth with time. Sufism is one of it. Prophet Mohammed (Peace be upon him) was also “Teacher of Humanity” [Moallim al Insaniyya] (and not just teacher of muslims…) !

Vidya Rao has written wonderfully and with her heart on the delicate issue, which is at the core of India’s Soul. Indic civilisation is secular in essence., and is under threat of evil forces who indulge in hate-speech, divide society, incite mob violence and rise to political power !

If Indic Civilisation is secular, and if India is such a great nation of great idealism. how do we explain the barbaric events, the news item we see / read. Therein lies the reality. Hate-Factories are flourishing inside India. Pundit Jawaharlal Nehru had identified these Hate-Factories. These Hindu-Taliban and RSS and VHP and the narrow-minded people (from other religions / persuasions) will destroy Indian Culture. Religion teaches love. No religion (islam or hinduism) encourages violence…

What is happening today is that “religion” is used as a banner, to incite mob violence… They are doing this to feed their egos. This has nothing to do with religion, per se. Unfortunately hatred has been drilled continuously for the past 80 years… and that is the reason, why the average indian is so full of hatred and narrow-minded… inspite of being the inheritor of a great civilisational culture… such great beauty of languages, poetry, architecture, painting, divine music…

Love is the Mantra… but power-brokers pour cyanide continuously (on a daily basis) on the feeble plant of love. Mohammed is “Mohabbat”, and all else is commentary. Hindu Philosophy, Vedas, Upanishads, Gita… is full of great wisdom. Sri Krishna shows the full-ness of the personality of man… and the Rasa-Leela is “Maya” or worldy-affairs.

It pains the heart terribly to see such great culture.. such great heritage.. going to dogs. Such fine music… such fine artistes… such fine poets.. such fine sufis.. such fine writers… such fine souls… and their contribution over centuries… all gets washed away…. by a hand-ful of evil people … the merchants of hatred !

India can be a land of peace and freedom for 1 billion people, if the freedom of 1 thousand individuals is curtailed. They must be under house-arrest. The freedom of 1 thousand people is endengering the freedom of 1 billion people. They are using freedom wrongly… Freedom for one-self does not imply HATRED for another. There is a fine line…

I have not heard Ms. Vidya Rao’s music… i hope some day i can. She has written wonderfully… there are subtle hints in her essay… the mixture of Persian and Braj… and the simile of “filgree and earthen pot” that she has used is wonderful and written from the heart.

The essay is a tribute to India’s multi-ethnic richness… Diversity is God’s way… we have to understand that. The Government of India must introduce something about “Humanism” and “Respect for Diversity” in the school sylabbus ! Some states may NOT accept that… That is the main question… Are these states part of India… or have they seceded… mentally / ideologically ?

India’s constitution was drafted with great care and deligence. The foundation of india’s constitution, its diversity, its SOUL is under threat. India has to be saved from “hatred” if it is to survive. Iqbal had written with pride…

” Yunaan-o-Misr-o-Roo`maa…. Sab Mitt gaye jahaan se !
Ab tak magar hai … Baaqi ! Naam-o-nash`aan Hamara…”

Saare Jahan Se Ach`cha… Hind`ostan Hamara… Hamara…

If Hind`ostan is poor economically, that is perfectly fine…. but let us not get impoversihed spiritually… and philosophically.

Spirituality and Philosophy are the Core of the Indian Mind. That should not be destroyed by Trishuls, Swords, Acid Bombs, Guns and Lathis.

God Bless Vidya Rao., for the fine tribute she paid to the SOUL of Mother India.

]]> By: Sidhusaaheb http://www.razarumi.com/2008/04/13/khusrau-meera-kabir-the-fluid-self/#comment-4487 Sidhusaaheb Sun, 13 Apr 2008 20:58:47 +0000 http://www.razarumi.com/2008/04/13/khusrau-meera-kabir-the-fluid-self/#comment-4487 <i>Sar-zameen-e-hind pay awaam-e-aalam kay 'Firaaq' Qaafilay bastay gaye, Hindustaan bantaa gayaa</i> Sar-zameen-e-hind pay awaam-e-aalam kay ‘Firaaq’
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