Stop demonising China
Globally, the Tibet issue has been blown beyond belief by the media. I am compelled to ask that over one million civilians are dead in Iraq for no reason - no weapons of mass destruction and no chemical weapon stockpiles have been discovered - there is a stench of corpses and ashes everywhere. A civilisation has been destroyed, ruined. Has anyone inquired about this barbaric conduct of the so-called “civilised” West?
Has anyone questioned why all laws, rights, Geneva conventions are being violated at the Guantanamo Bay; and why there is a genocide of sorts underway in Afghanistan.
Restoration of a feudal order of course remains far more important for the media and “activism” in service of imperial power.
The concerted effort to undermine China that is the only developing nation to have eradicated absolute poverty and challenged the global hegemony of old colonists needs to be condemned.
The 2008 Beijing Olympics deserve support! Watch this video on Tibet.
April 10th, 2008
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April 10th, 2008 at 2:42 pm
Raza
Dont you think you are shifting towards logical fallacy ? Your argument is that ” China has right to be wrong because others are Wrong too “?( well your examples are mostly against USA)
Well if something is wrong and is against human ethics then it is wrong .. you cant justify it by proving that others are wrong too .. where are you leading this world too ?
China has eradicated Poverty ? thats a News … and who gives this data ? Chinese government ?
The reality is , that China has become a slave of west by trying to imitate western capitalism without its humanity . If you understand modern economy .. you will realise that China is just a slave playing in the hands of west , torturing its own people , for the sake of few extra dollars .
April 10th, 2008 at 6:42 pm
China has overcome its colonial legacy of under-development. UNDP report of 2005 reads:
“China has registered some of the most rapid advances in human development in history, with its Human Development Index Ranking increased 20 percent since
1990″
“if China’s achievements were not recorded, the world would have actually regressed in its progress towards poverty alleviation.”
“The country climbed 20 places in the Human Development Index ranking to 85 since 1990″
China was reported as having 250 million people living in absolute poverty in 1978. Today they have none.
April 10th, 2008 at 7:27 pm
I absolutely agree, great point Raza. No one talked of boycotting the US games, the only country to drop atomic bombs, kill millions in the name of democracy, after the ethnic cleansing of their native population.
China is positively angelic compared to the US. Wake up to the reality.
April 10th, 2008 at 9:16 pm
China…Tianenmen Square…Thousands of unarmed students protesting peacefully, machine-gunned and crushed under tanks of the Chinese military…Little or no freedom of expession…Dissent almost invariably crushed violently…Yahoo helped Chinese government detain dissidents…In short, I am no big fan of China!
I would bet on finding people living in absolute poverty in remote Chinese villages, far away from the prying eyes of the Western news media.
If you had quoted Singapore as a success story, I would have agreed whole-heartedly.
As far as condoning China’s role in Tibet, because what the US has done in Iraq is wrong, I’d say, “Two wrongs do not make a right.”.
April 10th, 2008 at 9:28 pm
Let’s replace ‘Western news media’ with news media of the world (excluding the Chinese official news agencies i.e.).
April 11th, 2008 at 12:27 pm
Dear Raza
This Statistics is Provided by the Communist China itself which is mostly wrong and no one is allowed to verify this data .. and every one knows that they twist this Data .
Secondly UNDP report is prepared on this same twisted data .
here is a link where you can see the reality of this UNDP report and its Fallacy .
http://209.85.175.104/search?q=cache:SM5TGWBD4wkJ:www.portal-stat.admin.ch/iaos2000/ryten_final_paper.doc+Jacob+Ryten+Human+Development+Index&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=in
and this is the biggest joke .. “China has no poverty ”
Read this Article
http://pmsol3.wordpress.com/2008/01/13/a-new-look-at-poverty-in-china/
I quote
“but in reality it is really a developing country with rural poverty on the same level of many sub-Saharan African nations, less than 2 or even 1 USD a day; there are 450 million of these people (35% of the total pop). This is equal to trying to lift 1/2 of Africa’s population out of poverty. I would qualify that by saying there are not many starving people in China, when I speak of African like poverty I’m not speaking of famine.
I am also highly skeptical of data coming out of China, especially from rural areas, as party officials are known to inflate their numbers and act like little emperors in their region. Stealing and misallocating public funds, creating local taxes by fiat are not uncommon. I have blogged about this before. So can China win the race. I’m very optimistic, but not “sold”.”
April 11th, 2008 at 12:31 pm
So its a request Please stop justifying a regime which believes in humiliation of human freedom and dignity . and most important stop being racist by criticizing west just because they are “West ” .
Every one has done mistakes including you and me .. but we all learn and reform ..
judge ppl by their present behavior .
“genocide of sorts underway in Afghanistan” you cant be serious ???
April 11th, 2008 at 1:19 pm
Er…Carpet-bombing of civilian areas, merely on account of suspicion of Taliban presence, does come close to genocide, actually, I’d say.
April 12th, 2008 at 5:25 am
Raj and Sidhu
Many thanks for the comments.. I appreciate and respect your views on China and I am no apologist for China - however, let me tell you that I have been to China a couple of times and spoken to several people and also witnessed how even in the small towns there is explosion of economic activity and what is known as ‘progress’- China has done it without the prescriptions of the West - and there is a general consensus even by its detractors that poverty has reduced and there is no ‘absolute’ poverty as we know..
About its human rights abuses - well that is a tricky area and I tend to agree with you both. Having said that those who are pointing their fingers have no respect for law, rights and humans for if that were the case they would not kill or contribute to the deaths of 1 million plus innocent civilians ….
About Afghanistan, let me post something now…
cheers
Raza
April 12th, 2008 at 1:40 pm
I just posted the piece by a US academic on the genocide argument. Technically it is not recognised as one but practically, the way a group and a community is being targeted means that it is close to a genocide
April 12th, 2008 at 2:02 pm
Dear Raza
This whole argument of development as an excuse for human rights violation is very kiddish . Economic development is happening everywhere it is happening in India. and in Taiwan too but not as an excuse of brutality .
Now lets see your argument “China has done it without the prescriptions of the West ”
China is achieved this development by not only imitating the western capitalism but even at the cost of its own people . Big American or western multinational are using Chinese Population as Slave for their cheap manufacturing because I have seen my self the kind of facility , working condition and Meagre salary they all get ( to keep the cost Low) and they dont have rights to fight for their rights .
and guess who is acting as dog to guard and exploit this population .. its own government .
and why do they do this .. so that they dont have time to think and fight for their fundamental rights . Lollypop for slavery .
April 13th, 2008 at 5:10 pm
There are a number of problems that are there with the arguments that have been presented.
1. There is an assumption that human rights are being violated in Tibet.
This is completely wrong (even if they are being violated, who can dream to support the theocratic feudal-slave regime of the Lamas?).
Before the CPC took power 95% of Tibetans could not
read or write.
Today on 4.8 percent of young and middle-aged adults
in Tibet are illiterate.
98.2 percent school-age children now have access to
primary education,
90.7 percent of children have access to middle school
education.
The government allocates 101 million U.S. dollars
annually to subsidize boarding schools in Tibet.
Infant mortality rate from 43 percent to 0.57 percent.
Smallpox, cholera and scarlet fever that were rampant
in the region have now been wiped out.
Overall life expectancy of Tibetans is 67 years,
almost double the figure in the 1950s, which was 35.5
years.
Tibetans are not stupid, they will not give all of
this up for the rampant corruption, poverty,
degradation, oppression and slavery that imperialism
brings in its wake.
Imperialism broke our country (India) into two parts, India and Pakistan. Imperialism broke Yugoslavia into 6 countries. Imperialism killed Lumumba, the great African leader. Imperialism killed Allende, the great Chilean leader and replaced him with a dictator Pinochet.
April 13th, 2008 at 5:17 pm
One thing must stand clear: China is the first third world country that is hosting the Olympics - I whole-heartedly support the shift. Let people go there and see what China has done in the last 50 years - why is Imperialism so scared about this?
Sidhusaaheb,
It’s interesting you quoted the Tainamen square “massacre” here too. You know very well that the event was covered massively by the media (thus some powerful photographs). However, to my utter surprise, I have not been able to see one single video of killings. Also, you must be knowing that there was a Spanish media crew, amongst others, that said and continue to say that there were no killings. I wonder why!
Now, I don’t say there are no problems with China. That being said, is there any third world country that is faring better than China? The problems of China are to be seen in the context of China.
April 14th, 2008 at 11:22 am
No i think Mr Vidrohi , Problem is that you lost the sense of time .(please dont hide behind this virtual world )
during that time when CPC took control of tibet with brute force ..
All these problems of Infant mortality, low education and others mentions by you were much more prevalent in your country China .
That theocratic system is one of the most liberal system as it gives you the personal freedom to choose .
firstly you want to imitate the western foolishness of finding glory in organising Olympics and then you abuse them for their past . what a pathetic argument .
China or any other country is not seen in Chinese context but in the universal context of human ethics . if people start accpeting your pathetic argument of context then every act of massacre can be justified by giving context ..
Hitler justified his brutality by context ..
April 14th, 2008 at 4:14 pm
Amazing,
Ignoring your personal slanders, your theocratic system - which, in your view, gave the personal freedom to choose - was termed as the “Eastern Swastika”, an ideal system of government - by the Hitler’s German delegation that visited Tibet in the 1930’s. You clearly have no idea of what Lama’s theocracy entailed - physical bondage and slavery (watch an old Nat Geo documentary on YouTube).
Force was used because the Lamas resisted the nationalization of land which was controlled by them under the garb of monasteries (something that was done in Europe as well way back). Most of the ordinary Tibetans, who lived in chains before that, saw the Chinese as liberators. Moreover, the Lama’s struggle was owned and supported by the CIA (Watch ‘CIA in Tibet’ at YouTube). Moreover, Tibet has always been a part of China since ancient times - it was only for a decade or two that it existed as seperate.
April 17th, 2008 at 4:08 am
its simply outrageous that people who write about FREEDOM of speech, Buddha scluptures(ruined by taleban) and human ethics support China in its brutal acts.
I would simply say THIS IS PLAIN HYPOCRISY.