Comments on: Na Ganvao Navak-e-Neem Kash (your half drawn arrow)- Faiz http://www.razarumi.com/2008/02/29/na-ganvao-navak-e-neem-kash/ In search of the unsearchable: O, my soul! where would you find your house? Sat, 05 Jul 2008 18:01:09 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: M.U.Ahmad http://www.razarumi.com/2008/02/29/na-ganvao-navak-e-neem-kash/#comment-4051 M.U.Ahmad Wed, 12 Mar 2008 08:30:19 +0000 http://www.razarumi.com/2008/02/29/na-ganvao-navak-e-neem-kash/#comment-4051 RR Thanks for posting verses - in future. Also, invite others to contribute. There is lot of material scattered in magazines, personal papers and memory. Putting these in an archive would be a service par excellence. Regards. RR
Thanks for posting verses - in future. Also, invite others to contribute. There is lot of material scattered in magazines, personal papers and memory. Putting these in an archive would be a service par excellence.
Regards.

]]> By: RR http://www.razarumi.com/2008/02/29/na-ganvao-navak-e-neem-kash/#comment-4045 RR Tue, 11 Mar 2008 19:49:41 +0000 http://www.razarumi.com/2008/02/29/na-ganvao-navak-e-neem-kash/#comment-4045 M.U Ahmad - many thanks for the verses - I will post them in due course. NN: overall what you say is also correct - the nuances of Urdu and Persian are so complex that myriad meanings flow out of these compositions. Let me think a little more about what you said thanks for dropping by from the Mall--- M.U Ahmad - many thanks for the verses - I will post them in due course.

NN: overall what you say is also correct - the nuances of Urdu and Persian are so complex that myriad meanings flow out of these compositions. Let me think a little more about what you said
thanks for dropping by from the Mall—

]]> By: M.U.Ahmad http://www.razarumi.com/2008/02/29/na-ganvao-navak-e-neem-kash/#comment-4038 M.U.Ahmad Mon, 10 Mar 2008 16:56:05 +0000 http://www.razarumi.com/2008/02/29/na-ganvao-navak-e-neem-kash/#comment-4038 RR Here are some more "ash-aar" translated into english. Surely, these will inspire many others to subscribe / share from their collection. Regards, M.U.Ahmad. “Umar bhar ka tooney paiman-e-wafa baandha to kiya Umar ko bhi tou nahin hai paaedarie, Haai Haai”. (Mirza Ghalib). Translation: As a tribute to our love’s commitment You vouched to keep the knot of amity tied ‘Till eternity’s dark culmination in a misty bowl. You must know, My dear, that the bond of mortality Between us pervades all others Making our earthly sojourn Merely a transitory marvel. “Main bulata tou hoon usko magar aey jazba-e-dil Us-peh ban jaey kuch aeysi ki bin aaey na baney”. ( Mirza Ghalib.) Translation: Come hither! Gentle, fleeting feet Not in response to my prayer But through the prompting Of your own dear heart Riven with infinite desire. “Go hathoun mein jumbish nahein aankhoun mein to dum hai Rehney do abhi sagher-o-meena merey aagey” ( Mirza Ghalib.) Translation: No life my fluttering hands retain Say not my love for wine a vain Before me let the cups remain Hands can not but eyes can drain “Hain khamyaazey saroor-e-aarzou key Nishaat vo gham kahou, namoun mein kiya hai.” (Shan-ul-Haque Haqqie.) Translation: Call them by name whatsoever Happiness, delight, sorrow or grief Fully well I know , these are Consequences of loving pleasantries Of an anguished love and a riven heart. “Dil-e-mutrib samajh sakey sha-yed Ek shikasta rubaab ka aalam.” (Jigar Muradabadi) Translation: May be a loving heart would understand Anguished wail of another heart Riven by loneliness Born of distance “” Kuch is-tareh sey bahaar aii hai ki bujhney lagey Hawa-e lala-ou gul se chiragh-e deida-ou dil. “” (Jigar Muradabadi) Translation: The aura of spring this season Is not what it used to be Sunshine and morning breeze Passing over flower bed Brightens not petals bedewed But cast a shadow of gloom All over lee. "Talab nay khaii hain woh thokrain rah-e-tmanna mein Ki aakhir mujh se sharmaane lagi haey aarzoo meri " “Bezaar-e- hayat -o- rang-o-boo houn Mein munkir-e-baad -o- saboo houn Cherey na mujhey naseem-e-gulshan Houn dil to magar, lahoo lahoo hou.” (Raaz Muradabadi) Translation: I am averse to the life of glamour and gaiety In denial of wine, women and beauty O' breez ! pass over me gently and softly I am a wounded soul and a heart Bleeding profusely. "Chaman key rang-o-boo ney is-qadar dhokey di-yae mujhko ke meiney zouq-e-gul-bosii mein katoun per zaban rakh-di" "Na hum budley, na tum budley, na dil ki aarzoo badlee Mein kaisey etibar-e-inqilab-e-aasmaan karloon" (Riyaz Uddin Amjad) Translation: Nothing has changed between us Neither me, nor you, nor our love How come, can I trust Things would ever change To bring us together. “Bezaar-e- hayat -o- rang-o-boo houn Mein munkir-e-baad -o- saboo houn Cherey na mujhey naseem-e-gulshan Houn dil to magar, lahoo lahoo hou.” (Raaz Muradabadi) Translation: I am averse to the life of glamour and gaiety In denial of wine, women and beauty O' breez ! pass over me gently and softly I am a wounded soul heart and a Bleeding profusely. “Mein who berg-e-khizaan raseedah houn gulzar-e-hastee mein Bagooley jis ke sha-aeq, aashiq jis kee bad-e-sarsar hai” ( Haffez Jalundhri) Translation: I am an autumn leaf in the garden of life Cherished by whirlwind Loved by dust storm “Ek hee shab mein huee yeh khida-haaey aeysh ki soorat Chaman ka ghuncha ghuncha subh ko ek chashm-e-giryaan tha” ( Haffez Jalundhri) In one night only a joyful dream came to an end I the morning each bud in the bloom Had a tearful eye “Razzaq-e-Dojahan ke khazaney ko kiya huaa Milta hai ghum who bhi kisee ka diya huaa” ( Haffez Jalundhri) Translation: What has become to the treasure of GOD One who gives sustenance both the world I am given only grief That too by some one else RR
Here are some more “ash-aar” translated into english. Surely, these will inspire many others to subscribe / share from their collection.
Regards,
M.U.Ahmad.

“Umar bhar ka tooney paiman-e-wafa baandha to kiya
Umar ko bhi tou nahin hai paaedarie, Haai Haai”.
(Mirza Ghalib).
Translation:
As a tribute to our love’s commitment
You vouched to keep the knot of amity tied
‘Till eternity’s dark culmination in a misty bowl.
You must know,
My dear, that the bond of mortality
Between us pervades all others
Making our earthly sojourn
Merely a transitory marvel.

“Main bulata tou hoon usko magar aey jazba-e-dil
Us-peh ban jaey kuch aeysi ki bin aaey na baney”.
( Mirza Ghalib.)
Translation:
Come hither! Gentle, fleeting feet
Not in response to my prayer
But through the prompting
Of your own dear heart
Riven with infinite desire.

“Go hathoun mein jumbish nahein aankhoun mein to dum hai
Rehney do abhi sagher-o-meena merey aagey”
( Mirza Ghalib.)

Translation:
No life my fluttering hands retain
Say not my love for wine a vain
Before me let the cups remain
Hands can not but eyes can drain

“Hain khamyaazey saroor-e-aarzou key
Nishaat vo gham kahou, namoun mein kiya hai.”
(Shan-ul-Haque Haqqie.)
Translation:
Call them by name whatsoever
Happiness, delight, sorrow or grief
Fully well I know , these are
Consequences of loving pleasantries
Of an anguished love and a riven heart.

“Dil-e-mutrib samajh sakey sha-yed
Ek shikasta rubaab ka aalam.”
(Jigar Muradabadi)

Translation:
May be a loving heart
would understand
Anguished wail of another heart
Riven by loneliness
Born of distance

“” Kuch is-tareh sey bahaar aii hai ki bujhney lagey
Hawa-e lala-ou gul se chiragh-e deida-ou dil. “”
(Jigar Muradabadi)
Translation:
The aura of spring this season
Is not what it used to be
Sunshine and morning breeze
Passing over flower bed
Brightens not petals bedewed
But cast a shadow of gloom
All over lee.

“Talab nay khaii hain woh thokrain rah-e-tmanna mein
Ki aakhir mujh se sharmaane lagi haey aarzoo meri ”

“Bezaar-e- hayat -o- rang-o-boo houn
Mein munkir-e-baad -o- saboo houn
Cherey na mujhey naseem-e-gulshan
Houn dil to magar, lahoo lahoo hou.”
(Raaz Muradabadi)

Translation:
I am averse to the life of glamour and gaiety
In denial of wine, women and beauty
O’ breez ! pass over me gently and softly
I am a wounded soul and a heart
Bleeding profusely.

“Chaman key rang-o-boo ney is-qadar dhokey di-yae mujhko
ke meiney zouq-e-gul-bosii mein katoun per zaban rakh-di”

“Na hum budley, na tum budley, na dil ki aarzoo badlee
Mein kaisey etibar-e-inqilab-e-aasmaan karloon”
(Riyaz Uddin Amjad)

Translation:
Nothing has changed between us
Neither me, nor you, nor our love
How come, can I trust
Things would ever change
To bring us together.

“Bezaar-e- hayat -o- rang-o-boo houn
Mein munkir-e-baad -o- saboo houn
Cherey na mujhey naseem-e-gulshan
Houn dil to magar, lahoo lahoo hou.”

(Raaz Muradabadi)

Translation:
I am averse to the life of glamour and gaiety
In denial of wine, women and beauty
O’ breez ! pass over me gently and softly
I am a wounded soul heart and a
Bleeding profusely.

“Mein who berg-e-khizaan raseedah houn gulzar-e-hastee mein
Bagooley jis ke sha-aeq, aashiq jis kee bad-e-sarsar hai”
( Haffez Jalundhri)

Translation:
I am an autumn leaf in the garden of life
Cherished by whirlwind
Loved by dust storm

“Ek hee shab mein huee yeh khida-haaey aeysh ki soorat
Chaman ka ghuncha ghuncha subh ko ek chashm-e-giryaan tha”
( Haffez Jalundhri)

In one night only a joyful dream came to an end
I the morning each bud in the bloom
Had a tearful eye

“Razzaq-e-Dojahan ke khazaney ko kiya huaa
Milta hai ghum who bhi kisee ka diya huaa”
( Haffez Jalundhri)

Translation:
What has become to the treasure of GOD
One who gives sustenance both the world
I am given only grief
That too by some one else

]]> By: NN http://www.razarumi.com/2008/02/29/na-ganvao-navak-e-neem-kash/#comment-4005 NN Thu, 06 Mar 2008 07:13:33 +0000 http://www.razarumi.com/2008/02/29/na-ganvao-navak-e-neem-kash/#comment-4005 Raza, I always interpreted this piece differently. I thought it was about the poet's concept of 'khudi' AND struggle against opression. Mere charagar ko naveed ho, saf-e-dushmana ko khabar karo Woh jo qarz rakhtay thay jaan par, woh hisab aaj chuka dia In the two lines above for example I would venture that he proclaims to the world that weak and physically defeated he may be, he carries no debts. The last debt was to God (of his own life) and with death he even repays that. I thought it was about the 'self' and struggles within rather anything else. I can see your logic though and it is, for me at least, a new twist on Faiz's piece. NN (The Mall, 94) Raza, I always interpreted this piece differently. I thought it was about the poet’s concept of ‘khudi’ AND struggle against opression.

Mere charagar ko naveed ho, saf-e-dushmana ko khabar karo
Woh jo qarz rakhtay thay jaan par, woh hisab aaj chuka dia

In the two lines above for example I would venture that he proclaims to the world that weak and physically defeated he may be, he carries no debts. The last debt was to God (of his own life) and with death he even repays that. I thought it was about the ’self’ and struggles within rather anything else. I can see your logic though and it is, for me at least, a new twist on Faiz’s piece.

NN (The Mall, 94)

]]> By: RR http://www.razarumi.com/2008/02/29/na-ganvao-navak-e-neem-kash/#comment-4001 RR Wed, 05 Mar 2008 20:01:40 +0000 http://www.razarumi.com/2008/02/29/na-ganvao-navak-e-neem-kash/#comment-4001 MU Ahmad, many thanks for this suggestion. I will create these categories - will have to do it manually so will take time :( I am grateful that you visited and gave such a good suggestion Aftab: Bohat umda ash'aar - please give me the reference of the full ghazal Ignacio: thanks :) MU Ahmad, many thanks for this suggestion. I will create these categories - will have to do it manually so will take time :(
I am grateful that you visited and gave such a good suggestion

Aftab: Bohat umda ash’aar - please give me the reference of the full ghazal

Ignacio: thanks :)

]]> By: M.U.Ahmad http://www.razarumi.com/2008/02/29/na-ganvao-navak-e-neem-kash/#comment-3995 M.U.Ahmad Wed, 05 Mar 2008 09:07:28 +0000 http://www.razarumi.com/2008/02/29/na-ganvao-navak-e-neem-kash/#comment-3995 I would suggest a seperate category/section to archive all translations - urdu to english and also eglish to urdu. Ultimately, building up a poetic treasure. Thanks. I would suggest a seperate category/section to archive all translations - urdu to english and also eglish to urdu. Ultimately, building up a poetic treasure.
Thanks.

]]> By: Aftab http://www.razarumi.com/2008/02/29/na-ganvao-navak-e-neem-kash/#comment-3963 Aftab Fri, 29 Feb 2008 20:28:10 +0000 http://www.razarumi.com/2008/02/29/na-ganvao-navak-e-neem-kash/#comment-3963 Kisi ka kiya jo qadmoom par jabeen-e-bendagi rekh dee Hamari cheese dehi jehan cha-hi wahan rekh dee Jo dil managa tu woo boolay k dehroo yaad karnay du zara c cheese dehi na janay kehan rekh dee Kisi ka kiya jo qadmoom par jabeen-e-bendagi rekh dee
Hamari cheese dehi jehan cha-hi wahan rekh dee
Jo dil managa tu woo boolay k dehroo yaad karnay du
zara c cheese dehi na janay kehan rekh dee

]]> By: imigueldiaz http://www.razarumi.com/2008/02/29/na-ganvao-navak-e-neem-kash/#comment-3962 imigueldiaz Fri, 29 Feb 2008 19:59:59 +0000 http://www.razarumi.com/2008/02/29/na-ganvao-navak-e-neem-kash/#comment-3962 Oh I was on the wrong path, I supposed that It was any type of special arrow or weapon... LOL Oh I was on the wrong path, I supposed that It was any type of special arrow or weapon… LOL

]]> By: RR http://www.razarumi.com/2008/02/29/na-ganvao-navak-e-neem-kash/#comment-3961 RR Fri, 29 Feb 2008 19:48:29 +0000 http://www.razarumi.com/2008/02/29/na-ganvao-navak-e-neem-kash/#comment-3961 Ignacio: it means while preparing to use an arrow to attack the enemy i.e. stretching the bow half-way.. So here the poet is saying that do nto waste your arrow on my heart as my heart is already shattered into pieces.. hope I am clear? Ignacio: it means while preparing to use an arrow to attack the enemy i.e. stretching the bow half-way..

So here the poet is saying that do nto waste your arrow on my heart as my heart is already shattered into pieces..
hope I am clear?

]]> By: imigueldiaz http://www.razarumi.com/2008/02/29/na-ganvao-navak-e-neem-kash/#comment-3960 imigueldiaz Fri, 29 Feb 2008 19:09:59 +0000 http://www.razarumi.com/2008/02/29/na-ganvao-navak-e-neem-kash/#comment-3960 what's the meaning of 'half drawn arrow'?. I can't find It on the net, but I have found some Ghazal during the search with that expression... what’s the meaning of ‘half drawn arrow’?. I can’t find It on the net, but I have found some Ghazal during the search with that expression…

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