Comments on: Muslims in Germany study- State-propagated racism under the guise of science http://razarumi.com/2008/01/28/%e2%80%9cmuslims-in-germany%e2%80%9d-study-state-propagated-racism-under-the-guise-of-science/ Just another WordPress site Mon, 06 Feb 2012 08:58:48 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Atif Abdul-Rahman http://razarumi.com/2008/01/28/%e2%80%9cmuslims-in-germany%e2%80%9d-study-state-propagated-racism-under-the-guise-of-science/#comment-3715 Atif Abdul-Rahman Sat, 02 Feb 2008 10:51:43 +0000 http://www.razarumi.com/2008/01/28/%e2%80%9cmuslims-in-germany%e2%80%9d-study-state-propagated-racism-under-the-guise-of-science/#comment-3715 Check this out: http://youtube.com/watch?v=75JlaHbU9gU Check this out:
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]]> By: RR http://razarumi.com/2008/01/28/%e2%80%9cmuslims-in-germany%e2%80%9d-study-state-propagated-racism-under-the-guise-of-science/#comment-3699 RR Thu, 31 Jan 2008 10:03:57 +0000 http://www.razarumi.com/2008/01/28/%e2%80%9cmuslims-in-germany%e2%80%9d-study-state-propagated-racism-under-the-guise-of-science/#comment-3699 Zia and Faisal thanks for the comments here. Indeed Germany is a democratic welfare state but the Muslim/Turkish problem is fanning the latent issues of race, nationhood and belonging. The purpose of this post was not to berate Germany and Germans but to highlight yet another global trend that haunts our collective civilization.. Zia and Faisal
thanks for the comments here. Indeed Germany is a democratic welfare state but the Muslim/Turkish problem is fanning the latent issues of race, nationhood and belonging. The purpose of this post was not to berate Germany and Germans but to highlight yet another global trend that haunts our collective civilization..

]]> By: Faisal http://razarumi.com/2008/01/28/%e2%80%9cmuslims-in-germany%e2%80%9d-study-state-propagated-racism-under-the-guise-of-science/#comment-3689 Faisal Wed, 30 Jan 2008 21:18:51 +0000 http://www.razarumi.com/2008/01/28/%e2%80%9cmuslims-in-germany%e2%80%9d-study-state-propagated-racism-under-the-guise-of-science/#comment-3689 I have lived in Germany, Berlin to be precise for one year. Two thirds of my stay was in wedding, a predominantly Turkish/ Muslim district and one of the poorest in Berlin. Well, from my personal observation, i can say there was a clear distinction between the Turkish/ Muslim and German lifestyles. I would say this was the same in Ghent, Belgium as well, where i lived in another Muslim neighborhood for sometime. Muslims or should I say turks, were mostly no so well off, educated and in some cases, even socially not so comfortable to interact with. There is something wrong on their part, though I must say that Germans, especially from the former east Germany have an attitude problem as well. This goes across the board in all levels of the society. I have lived in Germany, Berlin to be precise for one year. Two thirds of my stay was in wedding, a predominantly Turkish/ Muslim district and one of the poorest in Berlin. Well, from my personal observation, i can say there was a clear distinction between the Turkish/ Muslim and German lifestyles. I would say this was the same in Ghent, Belgium as well, where i lived in another Muslim neighborhood for sometime.
Muslims or should I say turks, were mostly no so well off, educated and in some cases, even socially not so comfortable to interact with. There is something wrong on their part, though I must say that Germans, especially from the former east Germany have an attitude problem as well. This goes across the board in all levels of the society.

]]> By: ZH http://razarumi.com/2008/01/28/%e2%80%9cmuslims-in-germany%e2%80%9d-study-state-propagated-racism-under-the-guise-of-science/#comment-3678 ZH Tue, 29 Jan 2008 09:50:10 +0000 http://www.razarumi.com/2008/01/28/%e2%80%9cmuslims-in-germany%e2%80%9d-study-state-propagated-racism-under-the-guise-of-science/#comment-3678 Having been to Hanover in Germany a couple of times, i can vouch for Muslims living in quite harmony with other communities. Islamophobia to me personally was non-existent at the grassroots level. However some incidents did inspire fear leading to questions we would often find hard to explain to germans. On the whole, i experienced pretty peaceful social interactions. I think problem is more at the intellectual plane. Research, debate and dialgue are things which in my view have frequently shown bias. Global forces on both sides of the divide are quite resourceful to influence views, perceptions and findings according to their likings. May be this particular article is yet another attempt to portray islamification of west as the coming danger which can be countered by introducing some control mechanisms such as declaration by muslims to renounce violence. Raza, after couple of weeks, just checked your website and realized how much i have missed. Will makre sure i benefit from inspiring write up you have pasted. All the best and keep up the wonderful work. It does agitate mind besides triggering some thought provoking ideas. Having been to Hanover in Germany a couple of times, i can vouch for Muslims living in quite harmony with other communities. Islamophobia to me personally was non-existent at the grassroots level. However some incidents did inspire fear leading to questions we would often find hard to explain to germans. On the whole, i experienced pretty peaceful social interactions.

I think problem is more at the intellectual plane. Research, debate and dialgue are things which in my view have frequently shown bias. Global forces on both sides of the divide are quite resourceful to influence views, perceptions and findings according to their likings. May be this particular article is yet another attempt to portray islamification of west as the coming danger which can be countered by introducing some control mechanisms such as declaration by muslims to renounce violence.

Raza, after couple of weeks, just checked your website and realized how much i have missed. Will makre sure i benefit from inspiring write up you have pasted. All the best and keep up the wonderful work. It does agitate mind besides triggering some thought provoking ideas.

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