Bhai tum bolo, cheekho aur kuch bhe karo but ghusa nikalana k lie attack k tor par posts tu na karo- LOL”

I strongly protest , that such a sectarian remark was published.

Raza give me a break. for them all is same! you think they know what liberalism, or rationalism means? lolz or they are aware of differences between the left and Liberals? for them they are “bloody seculars” or “agents of jews” lolz
Anyways i think you have presented a good case . you know Iqbal identified this lot a long time ago , deen e mullah fi sabeel allah fasad. they cant disscuss , they can only terrorize .

We are all ignorant Raza. The process of learning never ends otherwise there wouldn’t be much left to live for…:)

Then this “Fatwa”

tinyurl.com/ypr9×7

Now I will be called Illogical, fictitious just because I am telling something which EXISTS? Wah bhye! Ever heard? . Those who live in glasshouses don’t throw stones on others

Who am I to object what you write? but when you refer someone or quote someone then you should not get pissed if he/she replies. If you want to hear “good words” then you are free to block comments by those who oppose you?

Speaking of tableeghi style of Islam, do you even know that Barelvis copied the concept of Tableeghis and established a center at Sabzi Mandi called “Faizan-e-Madina” where all Green Turban guys gather? They also copied RaiWind concept and started “Dawat-e-Islami” in Multan and do you know why? because those guys were impressed(or worried) this type of preaching and they started their own version on same lines?
Bhai Raza kuch barelvio k baray me bhe kharab rakh lia karo. sara waqt idher udher k gossips jama karne me guzar detey ho- LOL

Bhai tum bolo, cheekho aur kuch bhe karo but ghusa nikalana k lie attack k tor par posts tu na karo- LOL

These people are, of course, the greatest ‘fantasits’ around (what else is bin Laden but someone who lives in a virtual reality)?

Same with these blighters-but to a lesser extent: Cut off from the world and society. Perhaps a dose of Gibbon would do them so good. What did he say about ‘folly’ again?

M.Asad has a great chapter in Road to Mecca on how the zeal of the fanatics turns into its opposite. “He who would play the angel ends up playing the beast”.

Anyway, I’ve got nothing against them. Just wish they’d pick up their ‘lotas’ and their bloody mess when they return to their ‘caves’.

Salaams,

b.

You are so right - we are relics of a different era or perhaps we share a different view of things.. I agree that these seemingly benign faces of a phenomena are far more acceptable than others who have thrown us into the melting pot of racism, power politics with a branded religious identity..

Shaan
that was an awesome quote..

Cubano: thanks for the post - it made me smile and also happy that I was not the only ‘ignorant’ one..

Adnan Mian: Your rant against liberal may have merits in its own but I dont think that I for one am comfortable with this title.
I’d rather be called as a rationalist or worse a progressive Muslim..

acha, ab hamay bhee bolnay ka mauqa do -

Obviously definition of extremism and tolerance could be re-intrepetated according to liberal idea of Ijtehad. Hence if a person like Raza declares his “opponents” extremist, its called enlightenment while if someone refutes baseless claim or even use same tone against liberals, it’s called “narrow-mindness” or “intolerant or extreme point of view”. No wonder Ad-hominem fallacy has become “open-mindness” among liberals or may be someone has already redefined Hypocrisy? If justifying personal fantasies in the name of religion is progress and enlightenment then I think you people are just fooling to yourself rather to others.

Anyways, Raza needed some support to back him up and I am glad to know he did find few friends to console him.

“My atheism, like that of Spinoza, is true piety towards the universe and denies only gods fashioned by men in their own image to be servants of their human interests.”