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]]> By: Shaheryar ali http://razarumi.com/2007/10/19/the-devastating-midnight-attack/#comment-3057 Shaheryar ali Fri, 26 Oct 2007 19:56:45 +0000 http://www.razarumi.com/2007/10/19/the-devastating-midnight-attack/#comment-3057 @ kinkminos Thanks for your comments! "Why for Benazir" , why not for Universal Human Rights?? Alas , the poverty of thought! Dear friend, use the Magic wand and deport the population of Pakistan and replace it with that of France. How did Right of Man emerged in Europe? In French Revolution , those people who had Softer hands were murdered. By similar "hooligans" that want to sacrifice for Benazir. the Poor. Later the same Revolution degenerated. it leadership was destroyed. The hatred is not for Benazir, its for the people, who are "foolish". "uneducated" and "dumb". But what if the country is full of them? Rome was not built in a day my friend, and Europe did not become democratic in an hour, it took 300 years of wars , million n millions of deaths, or betrayals. But No democracy is built without people. The only democratic party you have is PPP, how bad or how corrupt it, it reflects your society. From this mess democracy can emerge , otherwise its either Army of Bait ullah Mahsood. Choice is with Pakistan One more option as well, Nato bombs as West is not gona tolerate ISI-Islamist nexus any more! But Pakistani Elitist democrats will never learn, Rome was burning and some one was playing music--- Universal Human Rights Democracy in a country whose Maternal Mortality Rate is worse than Nepal--- @ kinkminos

Thanks for your comments!

“Why for Benazir” , why not for Universal Human Rights??

Alas , the poverty of thought! Dear friend, use the Magic wand and deport the population of Pakistan and replace it with that of France.
How did Right of Man emerged in Europe? In French Revolution , those people who had Softer hands were murdered. By similar “hooligans” that want to sacrifice for Benazir. the Poor.
Later the same Revolution degenerated. it leadership was destroyed.

The hatred is not for Benazir, its for the people, who are “foolish”. “uneducated” and “dumb”. But what if the country is full of them?

Rome was not built in a day my friend, and Europe did not become democratic in an hour, it took 300 years of wars , million n millions of deaths, or betrayals.
But No democracy is built without people. The only democratic party you have is PPP, how bad or how corrupt it, it reflects your society. From this mess democracy can emerge , otherwise its either Army of Bait ullah Mahsood. Choice is with Pakistan
One more option as well, Nato bombs as West is not gona tolerate ISI-Islamist nexus any more!

But Pakistani Elitist democrats will never learn, Rome was burning and some one was playing music—

Universal Human Rights
Democracy
in a country whose Maternal Mortality Rate is worse than Nepal—

]]> By: kinkminos http://razarumi.com/2007/10/19/the-devastating-midnight-attack/#comment-3056 kinkminos Fri, 26 Oct 2007 18:28:05 +0000 http://www.razarumi.com/2007/10/19/the-devastating-midnight-attack/#comment-3056 this picture at the chowrangi site says it all. (well not all, but a lot a lot a lot): http://www.chowrangi.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/benazir_butto_truck.jpg this picture at the chowrangi site says it all. (well not all, but a lot a lot a lot): http://www.chowrangi.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/benazir_butto_truck.jpg

]]> By: Fahim Ali http://razarumi.com/2007/10/19/the-devastating-midnight-attack/#comment-3053 Fahim Ali Fri, 26 Oct 2007 05:23:59 +0000 http://www.razarumi.com/2007/10/19/the-devastating-midnight-attack/#comment-3053 Well that was really saddening but noi body could stop it. Suicide bombinmg is just impossible to stop unless u identify the attacker and kill at the moment. Nation will keep on dying the same way in such processions and that is shocking. Also read a very interesting post that relates to the same topic on the following link: http://www.chowrangi.com/benazir-bhuttos-homecoming-left-karachi-wounded-and-scared.html Well that was really saddening but noi body could stop it. Suicide bombinmg is just impossible to stop unless u identify the attacker and kill at the moment. Nation will keep on dying the same way in such processions and that is shocking. Also read a very interesting post that relates to the same topic on the following link:

http://www.chowrangi.com/benazir-bhuttos-homecoming-left-karachi-wounded-and-scared.html

]]> By: kinkminos http://razarumi.com/2007/10/19/the-devastating-midnight-attack/#comment-3051 kinkminos Wed, 24 Oct 2007 05:56:02 +0000 http://www.razarumi.com/2007/10/19/the-devastating-midnight-attack/#comment-3051 her majesty blames punjabi-speaking gujratis. punjabi-speaking gujratis are blaming the exiled prince consort. as in an ashuran weep-fest, everyone is pointing a finger in one, two and three directions... i.e. everywhere but in their own direction. one commentator hit his head right on the nail, so to speak: >>> ...it’s the fault of those who are behind the attack have mian ush'baaz and mian un'waaz picked a culprit yet? imagine how much fun it would have been if pakistan had legalised gambling and we had high street betting shops in all our metrops: 10-1: Taliban 5-1: Government and/or C.I.A. 100-8: R.A.W. 100-1: Richard the Loin-Clothed 2-1: A consortium of television channels keen to boost ratings 2-1 on: Vested interests 3-1 on: Chaddi interests the horses line up - under starter's orders... and they're OFF to see the wizard, the wonderful wizard of ozlamabad her majesty blames punjabi-speaking gujratis.
punjabi-speaking gujratis are blaming the exiled prince consort.

as in an ashuran weep-fest, everyone is pointing a finger in one, two and three directions… i.e. everywhere but in their own direction.

one commentator hit his head right on the nail, so to speak:
>>> …it’s the fault of those who are behind the attack

have mian ush’baaz and mian un’waaz picked a culprit yet? imagine how much fun it would have been if pakistan had legalised gambling and we had high street betting shops in all our metrops:

10-1: Taliban
5-1: Government and/or C.I.A.
100-8: R.A.W.
100-1: Richard the Loin-Clothed
2-1: A consortium of television channels keen to boost ratings
2-1 on: Vested interests
3-1 on: Chaddi interests

the horses line up – under starter’s orders…
and they’re OFF
to see the wizard, the wonderful wizard of
ozlamabad

]]> By: Neena http://razarumi.com/2007/10/19/the-devastating-midnight-attack/#comment-3050 Neena Tue, 23 Oct 2007 23:40:49 +0000 http://www.razarumi.com/2007/10/19/the-devastating-midnight-attack/#comment-3050 Here is "A look at Karachi's violent history in a glance". http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2007/10/23/asia/AS-GEN-Pakistan-Violent-Karachi-Glance.php Here is “A look at Karachi’s violent history in a glance”.

http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2007/10/23/asia/AS-GEN-Pakistan-Violent-Karachi-Glance.php

]]> By: Neena http://razarumi.com/2007/10/19/the-devastating-midnight-attack/#comment-3049 Neena Tue, 23 Oct 2007 23:16:25 +0000 http://www.razarumi.com/2007/10/19/the-devastating-midnight-attack/#comment-3049 Raza, Great Article! It's not Benazir's fault that those people are dead it's the fault of those who are behind this attack. We need to realize that there are factors among us who wants secular forces in this country to be wiped out so they can bring extremism. Raza,

Great Article!

It’s not Benazir’s fault that those people are dead it’s the fault of those who are behind this attack. We need to realize that there are factors among us who wants secular forces in this country to be wiped out so they can bring extremism.

]]> By: kinkminos http://razarumi.com/2007/10/19/the-devastating-midnight-attack/#comment-3045 kinkminos Tue, 23 Oct 2007 05:22:27 +0000 http://www.razarumi.com/2007/10/19/the-devastating-midnight-attack/#comment-3045 instead of flocking in droves to reverently prostrate ourselves before Her Imperious [sic] Majesty, we should look her in the eye and demand that she and her merry myrmidons display the character, personality and morality that they decry the lack of in EVERYBODY ELSE in and around the political arena. when will we shed our feudal vassal mentality? instead of flocking in droves to reverently prostrate ourselves before Her Imperious [sic] Majesty, we should look her in the eye and demand that she and her merry myrmidons display the character, personality and morality that they decry the lack of in EVERYBODY ELSE in and around the political arena.

when will we shed our feudal vassal mentality?

]]> By: Asma Pervaiz Khan http://razarumi.com/2007/10/19/the-devastating-midnight-attack/#comment-3044 Asma Pervaiz Khan Mon, 22 Oct 2007 21:14:13 +0000 http://www.razarumi.com/2007/10/19/the-devastating-midnight-attack/#comment-3044 11 MadSufi says: October 21st, 2007 at 1:52 am Asma, I agree with you. Bhutto knew very well that she was going to be targeted. But I don’t think it was wrong of her to return to Pakistan. However, there was no need to arrange such a homecoming parade for the time being. ---------------------------------------- Sufi, that was exactly my point. I am not against BB or her coming back to the country per se but the show they created was uncalled for, the devastation caused should not have happened, the people killed left thousands mourning after them, the hundreds wounded and crippled for life was not what I had in mind. I don't like blood of the innocent people being spilled for these thankless goons. I am saddened like everyone else. I just wanted to add my voice to it but these are mere words, ineffective at best... Eh rehbar e mulkow quom bata Yeh kis ka lahu hai, kon mara 11 MadSufi says:
October 21st, 2007 at 1:52 am
Asma, I agree with you. Bhutto knew very well that she was going to be targeted. But I don’t think it was wrong of her to return to Pakistan. However, there was no need to arrange such a homecoming parade for the time being.
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Sufi, that was exactly my point. I am not against BB or her coming back to the country per se but the show they created was uncalled for, the devastation caused should not have happened, the people killed left thousands mourning after them, the hundreds wounded and crippled for life was not what I had in mind.
I don’t like blood of the innocent people being spilled for these thankless goons.
I am saddened like everyone else. I just wanted to add my voice to it but these are mere words, ineffective at best…

Eh rehbar e mulkow quom bata
Yeh kis ka lahu hai, kon mara

]]> By: Amena Saiyid http://razarumi.com/2007/10/19/the-devastating-midnight-attack/#comment-3043 Amena Saiyid Mon, 22 Oct 2007 17:38:55 +0000 http://www.razarumi.com/2007/10/19/the-devastating-midnight-attack/#comment-3043 I am devastated by what has happened. But as an outsider I cannot but help question why she decided to stage the same triumphal return that she had pulled off in 1986. Did she not know that the times have changed. My heart does not bleed for her. I do not see her a symbol of the people's power cos the people's plight did not improve during her two stints as Pakistan's PM. However, I am saddened by those people who have been lulled into believing she will save Pakistan. Those people who were innocent victims of this murderous attack. Benazir should have acted more responsibly rather than leading those poor lambs to the slaughter. I am not blaming her, but I do think that she is smart enough to have known better than to get so carried away. I am devastated by what has happened. But as an outsider I cannot but help question why she decided to stage the same triumphal return that she had pulled off in 1986. Did she not know that the times have changed. My heart does not bleed for her. I do not see her a symbol of the people’s power cos the people’s plight did not improve during her two stints as Pakistan’s PM. However, I am saddened by those people who have been lulled into believing she will save Pakistan. Those people who were innocent victims of this murderous attack. Benazir should have acted more responsibly rather than leading those poor lambs to the slaughter. I am not blaming her, but I do think that she is smart enough to have known better than to get so carried away.

]]> By: RR http://razarumi.com/2007/10/19/the-devastating-midnight-attack/#comment-3042 RR Mon, 22 Oct 2007 15:56:31 +0000 http://www.razarumi.com/2007/10/19/the-devastating-midnight-attack/#comment-3042 Dear friends, many thanks for visiting and leaving these comments. There are so many views on the key issues here - my post was NOT about politics per se - of course politics cannot be divorced from reality of our lives. However, I wrote this at a purely human level - as I was moved and upset after seeing so many people dead on the TV screen - ghastly and inhuman with no justification.. I only hope that such tragedies are not repeated and that somehow overcome the menace of violence - sounds naive but hope must not be lost! Dear friends, many thanks for visiting and leaving these comments. There are so many views on the key issues here – my post was NOT about politics per se – of course politics cannot be divorced from reality of our lives.

However, I wrote this at a purely human level – as I was moved and upset after seeing so many people dead on the TV screen – ghastly and inhuman with no justification..

I only hope that such tragedies are not repeated and that somehow overcome the menace of violence – sounds naive but hope must not be lost!

]]> By: kinkminos http://razarumi.com/2007/10/19/the-devastating-midnight-attack/#comment-3041 kinkminos Mon, 22 Oct 2007 12:53:06 +0000 http://www.razarumi.com/2007/10/19/the-devastating-midnight-attack/#comment-3041 i have written (a little) more about it here: http://kinkminos.blogspot.com/2007/10/musa-aur-firaun.html i have written (a little) more about it here:
http://kinkminos.blogspot.com/2007/10/musa-aur-firaun.html

]]> By: kinkminos http://razarumi.com/2007/10/19/the-devastating-midnight-attack/#comment-3040 kinkminos Mon, 22 Oct 2007 06:46:20 +0000 http://www.razarumi.com/2007/10/19/the-devastating-midnight-attack/#comment-3040 Hypothesis: Politicians Are The New Feudal Lords (and Ladies) of Pakistan ------------------------- First of all, whatever my (sketchy at best) political outlook may be, what happened on the night of October 18 was a tragedy (I mean the bomb blast, not the return of BB). I hope and pray that we are galvanised by it to demand without compromise that true and fair democracy be instituted once and for all in Pakistan. - Mr Shaheryar Ali states that >>> the mothers said , if we had more sons they will die for Benazir too. Why for Benazir? Why not for Pakistan? Why not for democracy? Why not for universal rights of man? For tolerance? For justice? For liberty? For honesty? For integrity? For sincerity? For accountability? For equality regardless of race or creed? For roti kapra makaan? Oh, sorry. I forgot. Mohtarma stands for all those things and has in the past delivered all of them to the suffering people of Pakistan. Forgive me, I have lived outside the country for too long. Absence makes the head grow softer, don't you know. btw, Mr Shaheryar, which constituency do you hope to get a PPP ticket for? Please let me know so that I may register as a voter there and vote for you. You have articulated all the things that are wrong with Pakistan and I have no doubt that, together, you and Mohtarma will right these post haste. Jiyeeeeeeeeee Bhutto! Come on people... Let's vote for Benazir. To compensate her for us having hanged her father. Let's vote for Benazir. To compensate her for us having gunned down her brother in cold blood. Let's vote for Benazir. To compensate her for us forcing her to live in destitution outside the country she loves so very very much. Let's vote for Benazir. To compensate her for us having murdered 150 of her party faithful at the stroke of midnight. Finally, let's vote for Benazir, for she is the one and only rightful heir to the throne of Pakistan. Hypothesis: Politicians Are The New Feudal Lords (and Ladies) of Pakistan
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First of all, whatever my (sketchy at best) political outlook may be, what happened on the night of October 18 was a tragedy (I mean the bomb blast, not the return of BB). I hope and pray that we are galvanised by it to demand without compromise that true and fair democracy be instituted once and for all in Pakistan.

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Mr Shaheryar Ali states that
>>> the mothers said , if we had more sons they will die for Benazir too.

Why for Benazir?
Why not for Pakistan?
Why not for democracy?
Why not for universal rights of man? For tolerance? For justice? For liberty? For honesty? For integrity? For sincerity? For accountability? For equality regardless of race or creed? For roti kapra makaan?

Oh, sorry. I forgot. Mohtarma stands for all those things and has in the past delivered all of them to the suffering people of Pakistan. Forgive me, I have lived outside the country for too long. Absence makes the head grow softer, don’t you know.

btw, Mr Shaheryar, which constituency do you hope to get a PPP ticket for? Please let me know so that I may register as a voter there and vote for you. You have articulated all the things that are wrong with Pakistan and I have no doubt that, together, you and Mohtarma will right these post haste. Jiyeeeeeeeeee Bhutto!

Come on people…
Let’s vote for Benazir. To compensate her for us having hanged her father.

Let’s vote for Benazir. To compensate her for us having gunned down her brother in cold blood.

Let’s vote for Benazir. To compensate her for us forcing her to live in destitution outside the country she loves so very very much.

Let’s vote for Benazir. To compensate her for us having murdered 150 of her party faithful at the stroke of midnight.

Finally, let’s vote for Benazir, for she is the one and only rightful heir to the throne of Pakistan.

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