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	<title>Comments on: Naeem Bokhari - More sinned against than sinning</title>
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		<title>By: The Pakistani Spectator: Raza Rumi on Naeem Bukhari Fiasco</title>
		<link>http://www.razarumi.com/2007/09/28/naeem-bokhari-more-sinned-against-than-sinning/#comment-2908</link>
		<dc:creator>The Pakistani Spectator: Raza Rumi on Naeem Bukhari Fiasco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Oct 2007 04:46:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;!--%kramer-ref-pre%--&gt;[...] On the fringes of Pakistani politics, the most darkest shade is of the battle between lawyers. The lawyer who started all this in the first place is Naeem Bukhari. Razi Rumi has some interesting thoughts upon this at,http://www.razarumi.com/2007/09/28/naeem-bokhari-more-sinned-against-than-sinning/ [...]&lt;!--%kramer-ref-post%--&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: Raza Rumi on Naeem Bukhari Fiasco</title>
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		<dc:creator>Raza Rumi on Naeem Bukhari Fiasco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Oct 2007 20:15:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: kinkminos</title>
		<link>http://www.razarumi.com/2007/09/28/naeem-bokhari-more-sinned-against-than-sinning/#comment-2882</link>
		<dc:creator>kinkminos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Sep 2007 19:55:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>pakistan's lawyer *class* has finally been galvanised into righteous action by its discovery of a *cause*

but years of obediently goose-stepping down paths delineated by a succession of risible and downright derisible kleptocrats has taken a toll that is not so easily reversed. fair play is usually the first victim of self-seeking government. here, sadly, is an example of how fine the line often is between righteousness and self-righteousness.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>pakistan&#8217;s lawyer *class* has finally been galvanised into righteous action by its discovery of a *cause*</p>
<p>but years of obediently goose-stepping down paths delineated by a succession of risible and downright derisible kleptocrats has taken a toll that is not so easily reversed. fair play is usually the first victim of self-seeking government. here, sadly, is an example of how fine the line often is between righteousness and self-righteousness.</p>
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		<title>By: Asma Pervaiz Khan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Asma Pervaiz Khan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Sep 2007 16:03:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: RR</title>
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		<dc:creator>RR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Sep 2007 07:05:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Sohail
Many thanks for the nice comment - and also the famous Hadees. You have interpreted and applied it well !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Sohail<br />
Many thanks for the nice comment - and also the famous Hadees. You have interpreted and applied it well !</p>
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		<title>By: Sohail Yar</title>
		<link>http://www.razarumi.com/2007/09/28/naeem-bokhari-more-sinned-against-than-sinning/#comment-2879</link>
		<dc:creator>Sohail Yar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Sep 2007 06:59:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very good comments by you on the law and order situation in the country.

In this regard, I quote a famous Hadees of the Prophet:

"Muslim is he from whose hand and tongue, others are safe."

In this beautiful and full and final hadees, I think, in those days since Lawyers did not exist, Prophet indicated that Muslim is he (He meant actually that Law-abiding person/lawyer is he from whose hand and tongue, others are safe" because if law-abiding person/lawyer/muslim cannot give peace to others, then how is it possible that the common citizens or men in the street may give peace to others - not possible.
So, in this Hadees, I think rather sure that Muslim means a Lawyer. This is a clear indication and thought-provoking moment now in the light of which our Courts and in the lines of which our Lawyers (so-called Lawyers) ought to think and better asking Musharraf to quit, they themselves ought to better reform and refine themselves so that the common men may idealize them.

Thanks,

Sohail</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very good comments by you on the law and order situation in the country.</p>
<p>In this regard, I quote a famous Hadees of the Prophet:</p>
<p>&#8220;Muslim is he from whose hand and tongue, others are safe.&#8221;</p>
<p>In this beautiful and full and final hadees, I think, in those days since Lawyers did not exist, Prophet indicated that Muslim is he (He meant actually that Law-abiding person/lawyer is he from whose hand and tongue, others are safe&#8221; because if law-abiding person/lawyer/muslim cannot give peace to others, then how is it possible that the common citizens or men in the street may give peace to others - not possible.<br />
So, in this Hadees, I think rather sure that Muslim means a Lawyer. This is a clear indication and thought-provoking moment now in the light of which our Courts and in the lines of which our Lawyers (so-called Lawyers) ought to think and better asking Musharraf to quit, they themselves ought to better reform and refine themselves so that the common men may idealize them.</p>
<p>Thanks,</p>
<p>Sohail</p>
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		<title>By: sadia dehlvi</title>
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		<dc:creator>sadia dehlvi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2007 18:23:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The state of affairs in Pakistan seems to be in a mess. The people of Pakistan must learn to respect their institutions and allow for dissent. Iislam is a religion of moderation as verse 143 in sura Baqra clearly spells out. the Prophet of Allah warned us against extremism. If we are to  propsper, we have to to listen to our the messenger of God who also said, "difference of opinion among scholars is a blessing." Countries that call themselves Islamic don't seem to be listening to Him. I think many secular countries like India adhere more to Islamic norms than Pakistan.sadia dehlvi</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The state of affairs in Pakistan seems to be in a mess. The people of Pakistan must learn to respect their institutions and allow for dissent. Iislam is a religion of moderation as verse 143 in sura Baqra clearly spells out. the Prophet of Allah warned us against extremism. If we are to  propsper, we have to to listen to our the messenger of God who also said, &#8220;difference of opinion among scholars is a blessing.&#8221; Countries that call themselves Islamic don&#8217;t seem to be listening to Him. I think many secular countries like India adhere more to Islamic norms than Pakistan.sadia dehlvi</p>
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		<title>By: AAK</title>
		<link>http://www.razarumi.com/2007/09/28/naeem-bokhari-more-sinned-against-than-sinning/#comment-2874</link>
		<dc:creator>AAK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2007 18:22:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is this the frustration that manifests itself in a mob frenzy if suppressed for too long?  What follows it, is any one's guess.  Look at history when it has occurred in the past.  French Revolution signalled the end of an era, though after much bloodshed.  Do we have to go through that before there can be hope?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is this the frustration that manifests itself in a mob frenzy if suppressed for too long?  What follows it, is any one&#8217;s guess.  Look at history when it has occurred in the past.  French Revolution signalled the end of an era, though after much bloodshed.  Do we have to go through that before there can be hope?</p>
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		<title>By: The Amenable One</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Amenable One</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2007 17:39:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>there is no excuse for jungleepun and jahalat, whether it is committed in the US or in Pakistan. I was appalled by the way the academia at Columbia University and the mainstream media treated the Iranian Premier. Wahan pay verbal slaps deliver huay. Aur yahan pas asal thuppar. The treatment of Naeem Bokhari is no less than the way Ahmadinejad was treated in NY. 
And mind you i am not exactly beholden to either of them. Both are pandering to their own agenda but there are norms of behaviour and etiquette that in this day and age are largely missing!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>there is no excuse for jungleepun and jahalat, whether it is committed in the US or in Pakistan. I was appalled by the way the academia at Columbia University and the mainstream media treated the Iranian Premier. Wahan pay verbal slaps deliver huay. Aur yahan pas asal thuppar. The treatment of Naeem Bokhari is no less than the way Ahmadinejad was treated in NY.<br />
And mind you i am not exactly beholden to either of them. Both are pandering to their own agenda but there are norms of behaviour and etiquette that in this day and age are largely missing!!</p>
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		<title>By: Zia Hashmi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zia Hashmi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2007 16:51:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While i condemn lawyers armstwisting their colleague so ruthlessley but i also wish to see people like Mr Bokhari to be mindful of the consequences of their such blatant collusiveness with the establishment. His fault was that he disrespected highest post in judicial hierarchy. He was neither serving his duty as a law officer nor following acceptable civilised norms when he accused a sitting chief justice of baseless and concocted stories clearly denied by those he refered as evidences. He deserved a legal challenge to charges he hurled at CJ and not the physicial abuse he was subjected to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While i condemn lawyers armstwisting their colleague so ruthlessley but i also wish to see people like Mr Bokhari to be mindful of the consequences of their such blatant collusiveness with the establishment. His fault was that he disrespected highest post in judicial hierarchy. He was neither serving his duty as a law officer nor following acceptable civilised norms when he accused a sitting chief justice of baseless and concocted stories clearly denied by those he refered as evidences. He deserved a legal challenge to charges he hurled at CJ and not the physicial abuse he was subjected to.</p>
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